Comments on: Things native to Pontian and Cretan culture? http://www.johortourism.com/pontian/206/things-native-to-pontian-and-cretan-culture/ Ultimate travel guide to Johor Sat, 01 Jan 2011 21:17:52 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: Myrina http://www.johortourism.com/pontian/206/things-native-to-pontian-and-cretan-culture/comment-page-1/#comment-203 Myrina Tue, 05 May 2009 20:09:01 +0000 http://www.johortourism.com/index.php/2009/04/things-native-to-pontian-and-cretan-culture/#comment-203 They both use the musical instrument ''lyra'' in their music, although it's a different kind of lyra. Cretans sing ''mantinades'', Pontians sing ''distiha''. Both Pontians and Cretans are very close to their culture: they sing and dance their traditional songs and they are very proud of their culture and history, which dates thousands of years back. Edit: ''Totally Blunt'', if by ''Karaman'' you mean ''Karamanlis'' you should know that Karamanlides were the Greeks who were living in Cappadocia, who had to speak Turkish because the Ottomans forced them to do so. However, they kept their Orthodox Christian faith in secret. They were NOT Turks in any way. Why should a Turk in the Ottoman Empire be forced to become an Orthodox Christian? By whom? By the Greeks who were not in power? It doesn't make sense.# They both use the musical instrument ”lyra” in their music, although it’s a different kind of lyra.
Cretans sing ”mantinades”, Pontians sing ”distiha”.
Both Pontians and Cretans are very close to their culture: they sing and dance their traditional songs and they are very proud of their culture and history, which dates thousands of years back.

Edit: ”Totally Blunt”, if by ”Karaman” you mean ”Karamanlis” you should know that Karamanlides were the Greeks who were living in Cappadocia, who had to speak Turkish because the Ottomans forced them to do so. However, they kept their Orthodox Christian faith in secret. They were NOT Turks in any way. Why should a Turk in the Ottoman Empire be forced to become an Orthodox Christian? By whom? By the Greeks who were not in power? It doesn’t make sense.#

]]> By: marissa http://www.johortourism.com/pontian/206/things-native-to-pontian-and-cretan-culture/comment-page-1/#comment-202 marissa Sun, 03 May 2009 22:11:51 +0000 http://www.johortourism.com/index.php/2009/04/things-native-to-pontian-and-cretan-culture/#comment-202 I've never thought of that! I think it is peculiar since as Nakis above pointed out one is from the far North and the other from the South that they do have some similarities. The traditional attire , of course the lira and the music has many similarities. I mean if you compared Pontious with people from the Peloponisse or Thrace there would not be these similarities. Anyway, thanks for the question I will search on it myself as well!!!! :-))) I’ve never thought of that! I think it is peculiar since as Nakis above pointed out one is from the far North and the other from the South that they do have some similarities. The traditional attire , of course the lira and the music has many similarities. I mean if you compared Pontious with people from the Peloponisse or Thrace there would not be these similarities. Anyway, thanks for the question I will search on it myself as well!!!! :-) ))

]]> By: georgiana http://www.johortourism.com/pontian/206/things-native-to-pontian-and-cretan-culture/comment-page-1/#comment-201 georgiana Fri, 01 May 2009 16:43:03 +0000 http://www.johortourism.com/index.php/2009/04/things-native-to-pontian-and-cretan-culture/#comment-201 hmm well, zoltan was right about the balck leather boots.. in crete they are called stivania. when i think of kriti, i think of... koupes, tsikoudia (raki, etc), zaria, balothies, twirling a koboloi, sarikia (black headdresses), stivania, making bastounia (canes carved from wood), moustakia, gledia, and of course, breeding meraklides. haha ok maybe this is more on the traditional side. dont know too much about pontian culture.. beautiful music though! hmm well, zoltan was right about the balck leather boots.. in crete they are called stivania.

when i think of kriti, i think of… koupes, tsikoudia (raki, etc), zaria, balothies, twirling a koboloi, sarikia (black headdresses), stivania, making bastounia (canes carved from wood), moustakia, gledia, and of course, breeding meraklides.

haha ok maybe this is more on the traditional side.
dont know too much about pontian culture.. beautiful music though!

]]> By: nakisvndk http://www.johortourism.com/pontian/206/things-native-to-pontian-and-cretan-culture/comment-page-1/#comment-200 nakisvndk Tue, 28 Apr 2009 22:15:44 +0000 http://www.johortourism.com/index.php/2009/04/things-native-to-pontian-and-cretan-culture/#comment-200 i think nothing... pontus is the most north point of Greeks and Crete the most south point.... i think nothing… pontus is the most north point of Greeks and Crete the most south point….

]]> By: zoltan http://www.johortourism.com/pontian/206/things-native-to-pontian-and-cretan-culture/comment-page-1/#comment-199 zoltan Sun, 26 Apr 2009 15:11:03 +0000 http://www.johortourism.com/index.php/2009/04/things-native-to-pontian-and-cretan-culture/#comment-199 ok both have black leather boots....lol thats the best i can do but here are 2 great links with plenty of info..http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crete ok both have black leather boots….lol thats the best i can do but here are 2 great links with plenty of info..http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crete

]]> By: Totally Blunt http://www.johortourism.com/pontian/206/things-native-to-pontian-and-cretan-culture/comment-page-1/#comment-198 Totally Blunt Sun, 26 Apr 2009 08:52:56 +0000 http://www.johortourism.com/index.php/2009/04/things-native-to-pontian-and-cretan-culture/#comment-198 The Orthodox religion. Yes, that is the factor that makes most Greeks think they are Greeks. Like some Muslims think they are Arabs because they believe in the same religion, speak the same language, although they have different historical backgrounds. PS. Karaman was an Orthodox Turkish, Turkish speaking village, but the residents were sent away during population exchange because of their religion. I wonder how many ethnic Greeks were sent to Turkey because they were Muslims. The Orthodox religion. Yes, that is the factor that makes most Greeks think they are Greeks. Like some Muslims think they are Arabs because they believe in the same religion, speak the same language, although they have different historical backgrounds.

PS. Karaman was an Orthodox Turkish, Turkish speaking village, but the residents were sent away during population exchange because of their religion. I wonder how many ethnic Greeks were sent to Turkey because they were Muslims.

]]> By: Serendipity http://www.johortourism.com/pontian/206/things-native-to-pontian-and-cretan-culture/comment-page-1/#comment-197 Serendipity Thu, 23 Apr 2009 20:00:58 +0000 http://www.johortourism.com/index.php/2009/04/things-native-to-pontian-and-cretan-culture/#comment-197 The only thing that comes to mind, is the lyre. There are many more, just can't think of them. The only thing that comes to mind, is the lyre. There are many more, just can’t think of them.

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